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Eagle worker follows Ukraine incident

She laments controversy involving homeland

Although the Butler Eagle is a news organization, no one in the building is paying closer attention to the controversy surrounding the Trump-Zelenskiy conversation than a 16-year property and building staff worker.

Lyudmyla Martin, who hails from Ukraine, said she listens to the Ukrainian news on her phone for at least two hours per day, and sometimes for much longer since President Donald Trump's conversation with Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskiy became the subject of controversy.

Democrats launched an impeachment inquiry this week because they feel Trump pressured Zelenskiy to investigate possible corruption by Hunter Biden, son of former Vice President Joe Biden, when the younger Biden sat on the board of directors at Burisma Gas in the Ukraine.

Joe Biden could end up running against Trump next year. He is one of several candidates vying for the Democratic nod in the 2020 presidential election.

Martin said most Ukrainians support Zelenskiy because he is young and willing to take on the corruption that has plagued the government since its separation from the Soviet Union in 1991.

“A lot of young people want change in Ukraine and want the country to grow,” Martin said. “The biggest problem is corruption and war with Russia.”

Regarding the conversation between Zelenskiy and Trump, Martin said her online news sources report Zelenskiy is shocked he was not consulted on his side of the discussion being made public.

Released Thursday by the House Intelligence Committee, the complaint discusses a July 25 phone call in which Trump allegedly prodded Zelenskiy to work with his attorney general, William Barr, and Rudy Giuliani, Trump's personal lawyer, to dig up dirt on the son of Democratic rival Joe Biden.

“He said (on Thursday) he never gave his permission to show his side (of that conversation),” Martin said.

She said his youth that supplies the vigor Ukrainians appreciate might have been a factor in the controversy.

“The president is new,” Martin said, “Not a lot of experience with overseas politics.”

She said news sources in the the Ukraine report the release of the unredacted transcript of the conversation between Trump and Zelenskiy could damage the Ukraine's relationship with France, Germany and other European countries.

Martin said Ukrainian media reports Zelenskiy contacted many European leaders in the wake of the release of his conversation with Trump.

“He has to be honest with everyone,” she said.

Another problem with the discussion's release is that it doesn't translate properly into Ukrainian.

“It looks different,” Martin said.

The news in the Ukraine also reports Zelenskiy needs support from the United States to meet his goal of getting Russian President Vladimir Putin to join in a meeting with Zelenskiy, Trump and European leaders regarding Russia's continued violation of an agreement to respect Ukrainian borders.

Martin said when the Ukraine gained its independence in the 1990s, Putin promised not to impinge militarily on the country's borders if the Ukraine gave up its nuclear armaments, which it did. Since then, Russia has taken Crimea and part of eastern Ukraine.

“That is what caused the war,” she said

While Martin closely follows Ukrainian news organizations, she has an inkling of the thinking of her people when it comes to the release of the unredacted transcript of Trump and Zelenskiy's conversation.

“Ukrainian people don't want to be involved in U.S. inside politics, that's for sure,” she said. “Nobody is happy about all this.”

She said the people also feel that Trump was pushing the Ukraine “to do something and if you do it right, we will give you military aid,” Martin said.

A few days before his call with Zelenskiy, Trump ordered his staff to freeze nearly $400 million in aid to the Ukraine. The president said he did so to fight corruption and urge European nations to do more to help the Ukraine.

“Of course, if you say, 'Do me a favor,' it means, 'I want you to do that,'” Martin said.

Ukrainians were surprised, Martin said, when Trump's attorney, Rudy Giuliani, visited the mayor of Kyiv to talk “like a friend.”

“Now we know why he was there,” she said of Trump's perceived interest in investigating corruption on the part of Hunter Biden.

Martin said Zelenskiy did not initiate an investigation of Hunter Biden because Biden bailed out of Burisma Gas when he learned of possible corruption. Government officials in the Ukraine investigated Burisma Gas in 2014 for tax violations, but announced in 2016 that the investigation produced no findings.

Martin said she felt sympathy for the upbeat, funny and outgoing Zelenskiy on Wednesday when she watched him speak on the subject of the conversation at a photo op at the United Nations.

“He looks so sad and upset,” Martin said.

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