change of subject, i find it hard to understand why bike riders insist on riding on roads with no berms and speed limits higher then 35mph,, yesterday a youngster was hit on unionville rd, 40 and 45mph and no berm. what erks me is a guy every morning in his spandex rides this road. no way to move over and i have seen people come up on him on a blind bend or hill. now no one goes the speed limit,, another subject. come on use common sense , pick a road with a decent berm or go to north park or moraine and ride the trails. one day a speeding cell phone yacking suv driver is gonna hit you buddy.