Ironic choice of words from those who adhere to religious dogma. Count me among the members of the cult of the rational. And Jim - I will refrain from characterizing you in the manner in with you characterized Amesh. You would not appreciate my perspective - nor will I bother to argue the fine points of your absurd accusations. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together can see through them. Sadly, if this site is any indicator - Butlerites are becoming increasingly deficient in the capacity for critical thought or logic ... I find it ironic that Amesh perpetually defends Butler - and as one who was raised there, people like Lisa, Jim and Matt make me exceedingly grateful that I escaped.