One might concede that as usual the more mind you pay someone the less intelligent theirs become. I do not agree with the nonsense that Cass spews about the Bible. If you read and understand the context you might come across more intelligent. I think most of your statements are "childlike" as well, on a rather immature level. Joe, I rarely, if ever give the time of day. He's just one of those type that like to cause conflict. Lori & Susie seem to make more sense then most though I would rather them ignore the ranting's of the others and continue to make valid points on related topics. I used to come here a lot to read interesting Butler goings on but lately it's just bickering. If I want to see that I'll turn on daytime television. I can get my fill there.